Oldham Family History

OLDHAM,  Clarence Elmer Reverend

OLDHAM, Clarence Elmer Reverend

Male 1889 - 1956  (66 years)

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  • Name OLDHAM, Clarence Elmer 
    Suffix Reverend 
    Born 17 Nov 1889  Connersville, Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Oldham, Charles Fremont<br>
1858-1922
    Oldham, Charles Fremont
    1858-1922

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    Births
    Gender Male 
    Census 1900  Jennings Twp., Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 1910  Waterloo Twp., Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Education 10 Jun 1915 
    Military 28 May 1917  Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 1920  Ward 1, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1920  1772 Brookside Avenue, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 1930  Wayne Twp., Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 1930  Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Office - Polk Milk Company 
    Occupation 1934  Traders Point Christian Church, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Minister 
    Oldham, Reverend Clarence Elmer
    Oldham, Reverend Clarence Elmer
    Trader's Point Christian Church History
    Military 1942  6535 Rockville Road, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation
    • Minister/Credit Union Developer
    Died 15 Sep 1956  Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4
    Cause: Heart Attack 
    Oldham, Charles Fremont<br>
1858-1922
    Oldham, Charles Fremont
    1858-1922

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    Deaths
    Buried 18 Sep 1956  Washington Park East Cemetery, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Notes 
    • (Medical):
      Hazel eyes, Brown Hair, Scar on upper lip

      Clarence E. Oldham's family called him Elmer. Was a travelling preacher for Disciples of Christ Churches before being appointed minister of Hillside Christian Church, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana (notice of first sermon at Hillside and Press Clipping regarding appointment are in Robert Forsythe's baby book). Later became local head of the Credit Unions in Indiana. Numerous clippings, awards, and photos of Clarence E. Oldham and founder's of the Credit Unions in the United States. Memorabilia in possession of son, Robert Forsythe Oldham.

      Clarence and his family lived near Connersville, Indiana. Clarence was raised on the family farm and he said little about his childhood. He felt he received his calling to become a minister while riding a hay wagon on his Uncle Brown's farm. His father was a schoolteacher in the area.

      Clarence graduated from Connersville High School and during the summers he worked on his uncle's farm. (part of the Brown family). His calling to the ministry which shaped his decision to come to Indianapolis and enroll in Butler College School of Religion. During his college years he played coronet in a Dance Band. His coronet is still in the possession of his grandson Robert B. Oldham. He also played in the Knights of Pythius Band in Connersville.

      While he was attending college he boarded at Aunt Gerthia Rigg's house in the Irvington area on Johnson Street in Indianapolis. At this time the Forsythe family was living on East Washington Street. Somehow the two met and married. Clarence also performed the ceremony for Gladys Forsythe Oldham's sister, Cecil and her husband Walter Albert.

      Clarence became a circuit preacher for the Disciples of Christ Church, travelling to small churches in the central Indiana area. He didn't have a regular church until Hillside Christian Church. He preached at Broadripple, Orange, Monrovia, Trader's Point, Refuge Christian north of Clarksville. Every summer Clarence would take the family to Bethany Park, near Mooresville, Indiana where they would camp out and have camp meetings. Many of the ministers had year round cottages at Bethany, but they only lived there during the summer months, using them like retirement homes.

      One night at Bethany (before the kids were born) while Clarence and Gladys were sleeping in their tent, a cow got into the trash can just outside the tent and scared Gladys half to death.

      During his pastorate at Hillside he also had a job as Public Relations and Educational Director at the Polk Milk Company. He would take tours of children through the dairy, teaching them what cows were all about.

      When he preached at Hillside, they lived on Hillside Avenue, Indianapolis, IN (house still there). This is where they were living when Robert F. was born. Because of the industry around the house and the industrial plant behind the house, which soiled Gladys laundry when she hung it out, she insisted they get a house out in the country. So they built a house at 6535 Rockville Road - just down the road from the Ted Johnson family, near Gladys' brother and his family(Van Fuller).

      Robert F. Oldham remembers that at Hillside house.they had a playpen that was like a crib, only it was made of screen wire so that the bugs and flies couldn't bite him and he grew up there. They had a big yard with chickens and rabbits. Bob's job was to mow the lawn. They always had a large garden.

      In 1935 Clarence secured a job with the Farm Home Administration. He was establishing Credit Unions for the Federal Government, travelling Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee. He traveled mostly by bus, leaving the family car for Gladys to drive. He was still a Republican, even though he worked for the government.

      In 1941 Clarence was hired by the Indiana Credit Union League, as the managing director. He then was establishing credit unions exclusively in Indiana. He served in that capacity until 1955. His retirement bonus from the credit union was a trip to Europe and the Holy Lands. (have pictures and slides) They came back and served as a consultant for the credit union movement.

      Clarence died in Indianapolis in 1956. Bob remembers his mother saying that while they were on their trip to the Holy Land Clarence had complained of becoming dizzy - (see Holy Land journal)

      Clarence taught the men's bible class at Central Christian Church for 25 years Was an Elder and member of the Board for many years. They joined Central in about 1930. Gladys remained a member until her death. Their grandsons are still members.

      Bill Speicher wife Helen Staros. Helen played piano and her sister Lillian played violin - providing music for the beginning of the service before Sunday school classes (adult). Bob was hired by the Sunday School to lead the hymn singing. Kenny Speicher complained there were paying Bob 10 dollars a Sunday, saying there'd be more money for the church if Bob would do it for free. Bob told him he would do it for free when the Staros girls donated their services. Kenny agreed it was a good idea - at the time Bob was just a kid and Kenny was an adult.

      Clarence was a great gardener due to his farming background. He was an excellent singer, leader, dominant personality. He was a strict disciplinarian, but never played with his children. His son Robert remembers riding toward home on Rockville Road one evening when he saw his Dad coming home. As his Dad pulled along side him in the car he pushed his arm out the window and knocked Bob off the bike telling him to get straight home.

      One time Clarence asked Bob to wash the car - that was his Saturday job (35 Buick ad 37 Buick) Bob washed those cars and the 37 was Dark Blue 4 door sedan - nice polish on it - pretty car……the 35 was a 2 door sedan and had a tire on the outside of the trunk in a metal case. He had polished the car and the only thing he could think of to make the dark green look darker was to put oil on it - he polished the whole car with motor oil. It took 6 months to get all the oil off of it. It looked pretty, but it had spots on it. He got the strap in the garage for that.

      Bob lost the razor strap, so Clarence began using a belt instead. The belt was usually used on a Friday night - because that's when Clarence got home. Often by Friday night Bob had forgotten what he'd done wrong. Bob's playmate on Rockville Road was son of football coach at Washington HS Ben Bogue. Son of Henry - rough and tough coach…quaker…..used to get on Bob unmercifully because he wasn't a physical kind of kid. Washington HS was a tough school back then - mostly attented by kids out of Haughville.

      Clarence kept a daily journal for many years. He would note the weather and family activities in these journals. When he was in college at Butler he said the most difficult course he had to take was Greek. Letters of acceptance to Harvard Divinity school were found in Gladys possessions.

      When Clarence died he was buried in a solid Walnut Casket. As fate would have it, the casket was made by his brother Carl. At the time Carl was making the casket he had no idea it would be used by his brother.

      HISTORY OF FAYETTE COUNTY, Barrows 1915: The Christian Church at Orange, Indiana was formally organized by Elder John F. Thompson on July 4, 1829. Soon afterward a small church building was erected by Elias B. Stone, mostly at his own expense. In 1851 another building was erected, principally through the efforts of E.S. Frazee, who preached for the congregation for a number of years. In 1875 the building was remodeled into a substantial and commodious structure. Among the early pastors of the church were William McPherson, John O'Kane, R. T. Brown, George Campbell and Henry Pritchard.
      In 1913 the Christian Church of Indiana divided the state into six districts, and placed an evangelist in charge of each district. It was his duty to visit all of the churches and endeavor to build up all of the weaker congregations. Theegation had grown smaller year by year for the past quarter of a century, and to all intents had practically ceased holding regular meetings. Rev. C .E. Oldham, a native of the county, the son of C.F. Oldham, of Springersville, was secured to serve the church at Orange, beginning in January 1914. He was a graduate of Butler College, an accomplished musician and singer, as well as an effective pulpit orator. Under his leadership the church grew from an inactive membership of nineteen to a flourishing congregation of one hundred and thirty-two. During the course of a revival held in the fall of 1914 he added fifty-seven members to the church. There is also a Sunday school of 150 members which is doing active work in be half of the church. Roland Morris is the present superintendent. Rev. Oldham resigned in January 1917, to continue his education, and was succeeded at that time by Rev. Francis."

      Indianapolis Star - after death of Clarence Elmer Oldham Christian Theological Seminary OLDHAM MEMORIAL FUND The Rev. Clarence E. Oldham Memorial Fund was established by Mrs. C. E. Oldham in memory of her husband, who passeed away a few weeks ago. He served many herasw as a pastor of Christian churches and was long a devoted member of Central Christian Church, Indianapolis. He was a graduate of Butler University and was a loyal friend of the School of Religion. The Fund has been deposited in permanent endowment, and the interest year after year will help educate leaders for the church, and will thus carry on the work to which he gave himself. This is an investment in the basic enterprise of the church which will bear fruit in all other work of the church.

      During the school year 1906-07, Dr. W. Otto Meissner established the first high school marching band in the U.S. at Connersville High School. The band is currently directed by Mr. Les Miller.

      Gladys Forsythe Oldham established a memorial scholarship fund at Christian Theological Seminary after the death of Rev. Clarence E. Oldham. Mr. Robert F. Oldham checked with Mr. Paul Webb of CTS Nov 29, 2007 for an update on the fund. It is still operating and is generating approximately $800 per year. Mr. Webb will forward an update on this account. Per Mr. Webb's CTS normally only gives 5% of the total fund each year.

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      UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 -Ancestry
      Clarence Oldham
      Age: 66
      DoB: 17 Nov 1889
      Occ: Minister
      Port of Departure: NY, NY via Cherbourg
      Arrival Date: 6 Dec 1955
      Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
      Duration of Stay: 1 month
      Ports of Voyage: New York
      Ship Name: Queen Mary
      Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Co., Ltd
      Address in England: Grosvenor House, London
      Official Number: 7602/01

    Person ID I489  oldham
    Last Modified 12 Mar 2017 

    DNA Tests  Y-DNA-12345 OLDHAM, Robert Forsythe (9 Sep 2013)

    Father OLDHAM, Charles Freemont,   b. 23 Aug 1858, Jennings Twp., Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Feb 1922, Connersville, Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 63 years) 
    Mother BROWN, Elizabeth Jane,   b. 27 Aug 1869, Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 May 1925, Fayette County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years) 
    Family ID F88  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family FORSYTHE, Gladys Marie,   b. 30 Nov 1893, Edinburg, Blue River Twp., Johnson County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1986, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 93 years) 
    Married 14 Mar 1918  Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7
    Oldham, Charles Fremont<br>
1858-1922
    Oldham, Charles Fremont
    1858-1922

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    Marriages
    Children 
     1. OLDHAM, Isabelle Jane,   b. 14 Feb 1924, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Aug 1984, Noblesville, Hamilton County, Indiana USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years)
     2. OLDHAM, Robert Forsythe,   b. 19 May 1928, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Nov 2013, Greenwood, Johnson County, Indiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years)
    Photos
    Oldham<br>  Clarence Elmer with Robert F. and Isabelle Jane Oldham
    Oldham
    Clarence Elmer with Robert F. and Isabelle Jane Oldham

    about 1932
    Last Modified 29 Nov 2013 
    Family ID F6  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 17 Nov 1889 - Connersville, Fayette County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1900 - Jennings Twp., Fayette County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1910 - Waterloo Twp., Fayette County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMilitary - 28 May 1917 - Fayette County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 14 Mar 1918 - Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1920 - Ward 1, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1920 - 1772 Brookside Avenue, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1930 - Wayne Twp., Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Office - Polk Milk Company - 1930 - Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Minister - 1934 - Traders Point Christian Church, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMilitary - 1942 - 6535 Rockville Road, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Cause: Heart Attack - 15 Sep 1956 - Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 18 Sep 1956 - Washington Park East Cemetery, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana, USA Link to Google Earth
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    Documents
    Oldham, Charles Fremont<br>
1858-1922
    Oldham, Charles Fremont
    1858-1922

    Family Bible

    Marriages

    Miscellaneous
    Oldham, Clarence E.<br>
1889-1856
    Oldham, Clarence E.
    1889-1856

    Johnson County, Indiana
    Newspaper Article

  • Sources 
    1. [S2497] 1900 Federal Census, Jennings Twp., Fayette County, Indiana.

    2. [S2784] Headstone.

    3. [S2994] Obituary, (In File).

    4. [S3530] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 30 Nov 2013), entry for Clarence Elmer OLDHAM, person ID KCHM-JNK. (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S3157] Photograph of Tombstone.

    6. [S521] Family Bible, Charles Freemont Oldham.

    7. [S753] Marriage Records, Marion County, Indiana, Book 96 Page 491 (Reliability: 3).