Oldham Family History

OLDHAM, John

Male 1822 - 1881  (58 years)


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  • Name OLDHAM, John  [1, 2, 3
    Born 25 Jul 1822  Normantown Or Sherbrook, Sherbrook, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5
    Gender Male 
    Census 1860  Spanish Fork, Utah County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 1870  Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 1880  Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died 4 Apr 1881  Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 6
    Buried City Cemetery, Mt. Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
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      Author: keithjoldham
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      Message Board Post:

      A John Oldham was born 25 July 1823 in Temple Normanton, Derby. His mother was Elizabeth, his father was John. He married Sarah Hodgkinson in 1848. He died 4 April 1881. The 1851 census shows him as born in Pleasley. Does this help any?

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      Author: Christy_Fillerup
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      Keith,

      Thank you, this is certainly my John. However according to the Pleasley parish registers he is actually the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Oldham. Although he names his father as John Oldham on his marriage certificate I have been unable to find any other information pointing to John knowing who his father actually was.

      Would you mind providing any information you may have on how your information was compiled or what sources were used? I would love to be pointed toward sources I have yet to research.

      Cheers,
      Christy Fillerup

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      Author: keithjoldham
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      Interesting about the Pleasley entry. Does it actually say he is illegitimate? I had thought this was perhaps the John Oldham and Elizabeth whose marriage is registered at Sherbrook in 1821. The info I gave earlier is, as you say, from John's (b 1823) marriage. He may have invented a father to legitimise himself. There may be a marriage after his birth (which I haven't looked for yet). I'd be interested in any other info you have (cos I love puzzles - lol)
      Keith

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      Hi Keith,

      First off, am I right in believing that "Sherbrook" and "Shirebrook" are the same place? I haven't been able to come up with a location called "Sherbrook." Shirebrook was registered in the Pleasley registers until 1844.
      I haven't come across the marriage you spoke about, but that is likely because I have been looking for Elizabeth's marriage after 1823. No luck so far in Pleasley or North Wingfield.

      The parish register entry reads, "John, Illegitimate son of Elizabeth Oldham" -- of course these are in the appropriate columns. It also notes that although the christening is noted in the Pleasley PRs that it is "according to the certificate of the Revd T. Rawlings Curate of North
      Wingfield transmitted to me Aug 1st 1823. R. R. Rawlings." On the same page as John there is an additional llegitimate child as well.

      In addition Elizabeth had an earlier child in June of 1819. This entry reads "Charlotte, Dr. of Elizth Oldham" she is noted as from "Shirebrook" and is a "Single Woman." On the same PR baptism page as Charlotte are two other "single women."

      Illegitimacy does not appear to have been a particularly rare occurrence in this area during this time period.

      For any who are interested John only names his father as "John Oldham" on his marriage certificates (civil and ecclesiastical.) In all other cases where he names his parents at all he names only his mother--Elizabeth. The
      only exception is an LDS baptismal record where John is listed as "John Oldham son of Isaac."

      I wish I new what information was used to give John's birthplace as Temple Normanton on your index card. The only other indication I have that he spent time in Normanton is that his tombstone states he was born in "Normantown."
      All other sources point to Pleasley and Shirebrook.

      Thanks for your help!
      Christy

      Reply-To:
      From: "Alice Maxwell"
      To:
      Subject: information on the decendents of Louis William Oldham and Marie B odell Andersen
      Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:48:37 -0800

      They had one more son who is not listed. His name was William, born in the 1890s. He married Orpah Rowe and they had one son, Melvin. William died about 1953.

      Spouses of children of Louis & Marie:
      1. Harold Oldham married Della Rasmussen - no children.
      Harold was born August, 1906 and died June 18,1980. 2. Alice Oldham was born May, 1900 - married Glen Ney - one daughter, one son 1. Bertha, born 1921 - married Gordon Penny
      Children: David b. 1944 - married Darlene Bucchanan - two daughters
      Amber b. 1967
      Autumn - married Jeremy Ames - one daughter, Madelaine.
      Richard born 1946. He married Maude ne - no children.
      2. Robert - married Marjorie Cornstedt. Five children.
      Debra b. 1950
      Michael b. 1952
      Jonathon b. 1953
      Rebecca
      Mary

      Alice died February, 1968.

      3. Charles Oldham married Alice Rowe - three sons.
      1. Louis Oldham - married Nedra Bertellsen.
      Children: Kenneth Charles - b. Sept. 1947 - married Marsha Wood
      Louis Ronald - b. Oct. 1948 - married Charlene Weatherby Children: Rhonda
      Sarah
      LouAnne - b. March 17, 1951 - married Kent Oldham
      Sherrie Lyn - b. February 29, 1952 - married L. Auer
      Johanssen
      Ellen - b. March 24, 1956
      2. Arthur Oldham - married Donna Nordstrom.
      Children: Kent - b. March 15, 1951 - LouAnne Oldham
      Layne - b. February, 1953
      Carla
      Mark - b. 1958 - married Mary Huffman Children: Emily
      Julie
      Jud

      3. Vernon Oldham - married Barbara
      Children: Greg
      Marcia
      Charles died 1972 or 1973.

      I hope this information is of some help to you in recording the descendents of John Oldham and Sarah Hodgkinson. If you have any questions, please fe el free to contact me. I am Alice Oldham, daughter of John Oldham and Marie Manha. My birthdate is July 15, 1953. Thanks.
    Person ID I20575  oldham
    Last Modified 16 Dec 2011 

    Father OLDHAM, John,   b. Abt 1796, Sherbrook, Sherbrook, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother UNKNOWN, Elizabeth G.,   b. 1796, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F5609  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family HODGKINSON, Sarah,   b. 4 May 1832, Congleton, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Dec 1915, Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 83 years) 
    Married 13 Sep 1848  St. Werburg Parish, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. OLDHAM, John,   b. 1848, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1848, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     2. OLDHAM, Jane Elisabeth,   b. 3 Jul 1851, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Jun 1907, Clovis, Fresno County, California, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years)
     3. OLDHAM, John O.,   b. 1853, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1854, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
     4. OLDHAM, James,   b. 1854, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1854, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     5. OLDHAM, Louis William,   b. 22 Dec 1855, Mickleover, Derby, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Jun 1918, Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years)
     6. OLDHAM, Emeline,   b. 25 Apr 1858, Spanish Fork, Utah County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Apr 1925  (Age 66 years)
     7. OLDHAM, Thomas Hodgkinson,   b. 18 Jan 1860, Spanish Fork, Utah County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Nov 1928  (Age 68 years)
     8. OLDHAM, Joseph Heber,   b. 21 Nov 1861, Spanish Fork, Utah County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Aug 1938, Newcastle, Placer County, California, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     9. OLDHAM, Charles Henry,   b. 2 Dec 1863, Spanish Fork, Utah County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Jan 1930, Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
     10. OLDHAM, Mary Elizabeth,   b. 28 Nov 1865, Richfield, Sevier County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Nov 1892  (Age 26 years)
     11. OLDHAM, Sarah Cornelia,   b. 30 Oct 1867, Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Sep 1930  (Age 62 years)
     12. OLDHAM, Ernest Albert,   b. 1872, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1873, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
    Last Modified 29 Nov 2013 
    Family ID F8359  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 25 Jul 1822 - Normantown Or Sherbrook, Sherbrook, Derby, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 13 Sep 1848 - St. Werburg Parish, Derby, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1860 - Spanish Fork, Utah County, Utah, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1870 - Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Federal - 1880 - Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 4 Apr 1881 - Mount Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - - City Cemetery, Mt. Pleasant, Sanpete County, Utah, USA Link to Google Earth
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    2. [S3320] Claudia Stone, Claudia Stone, [(E-ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE),].

    3. [S3497] Christy Fillerup, Christy Fillerup.

    4. [S1835] F2624.ged.

    5. [S57] LDS.

    6. [S1680] Cemetery Records.